@Grumpymantooth - IMHO you're absolutely right, I don't understand the criticism of the way they play one bit. Neither of us could have dealt with the supposedly blunders of the two in the way they did themselves. When you're playing against an equally strong opponent (and at the very best level, they're all roughly equal), throwing him off by playing unexpected moves is the right way to go - which is what both were trying to do . And creating imbalance by not making the best, i.e. expected, moves, but the unexpected ones, is an absolutely legitimate strategy in chess - and that's exactly where Ding was (slightly) better than Nepo - this time...
Rather FIDE is irrelevant in China (and Russia). Hopefully 960 comes out on top. Ding could be champ for quite a while.
Всё постанова! :) Не зря Си в Россию приезжал по ходу матча, президенты договорились :)
dingliren nb
Was rooting for Ding all along!! Congrats to him for the amazing win! :D
Good Ding Liern
@errdee said in #11:
> @Grumpymantooth - IMHO you're absolutely right, I don't understand the criticism of the way they play one bit. Neither of us could have dealt with the supposedly blunders of the two in the way they did themselves. When you're playing against an equally strong opponent (and at the very best level, they're all roughly equal), throwing him off by playing unexpected moves is the right way to go - which is what both were trying to do . And creating imbalance by not making the best, i.e. expected, moves, but the unexpected ones, is an absolutely legitimate strategy in chess - and that's exactly where Ding was (slightly) better than Nepo - this time...
So you players who study chess every day for 10 hours since they are ten should bei measured by standards of Hobby Players?
No thats not the least shameful to have to resort to the lowest possible standard to justify you play.
> @Grumpymantooth - IMHO you're absolutely right, I don't understand the criticism of the way they play one bit. Neither of us could have dealt with the supposedly blunders of the two in the way they did themselves. When you're playing against an equally strong opponent (and at the very best level, they're all roughly equal), throwing him off by playing unexpected moves is the right way to go - which is what both were trying to do . And creating imbalance by not making the best, i.e. expected, moves, but the unexpected ones, is an absolutely legitimate strategy in chess - and that's exactly where Ding was (slightly) better than Nepo - this time...
So you players who study chess every day for 10 hours since they are ten should bei measured by standards of Hobby Players?
No thats not the least shameful to have to resort to the lowest possible standard to justify you play.
I get both sides of the why this was both satisfactory and unsatisfactory for different people. It was a refreshing and interesting match even though I have a lingering feeling that at this level it isn't and shouldn't be about entertaining spectators.
@ineedthedough said in #17:
> So you players who study chess every day for 10 hours since they are ten should bei measured by standards of Hobby Players?
>
> No thats not the least shameful to have to resort to the lowest possible standard to justify you play.
You are a Carlsen fanboy. LOL, you don't realize Carlsen beat Anand twice (old guy), Putin's lover Karjakin, and couldn't beat Caruana in Classical chess.
I challenge Carlsen to put up or shut up and beat Caruana in Classical.
Also, there is Nakamura. I challenge both Carlsen and Nakamura to abandon Twitch streaming and actually try to play chess.
I double dog dare Carlsen and Nakamura to dig up Fischer's grave and play a 3 way tournament.
> So you players who study chess every day for 10 hours since they are ten should bei measured by standards of Hobby Players?
>
> No thats not the least shameful to have to resort to the lowest possible standard to justify you play.
You are a Carlsen fanboy. LOL, you don't realize Carlsen beat Anand twice (old guy), Putin's lover Karjakin, and couldn't beat Caruana in Classical chess.
I challenge Carlsen to put up or shut up and beat Caruana in Classical.
Also, there is Nakamura. I challenge both Carlsen and Nakamura to abandon Twitch streaming and actually try to play chess.
I double dog dare Carlsen and Nakamura to dig up Fischer's grave and play a 3 way tournament.
@errdee said in #11:
> @Grumpymantooth - IMHO you're absolutely right, I don't understand the criticism of the way they play one bit. Neither of us could have dealt with the supposedly blunders of the two in the way they did themselves. When you're playing against an equally strong opponent (and at the very best level, they're all roughly equal), throwing him off by playing unexpected moves is the right way to go - which is what both were trying to do . And creating imbalance by not making the best, i.e. expected, moves, but the unexpected ones, is an absolutely legitimate strategy in chess - and that's exactly where Ding was (slightly) better than Nepo - this time...
Also no top Player who is not residing in Arthurs basement really thinks he can suprise a gm with h3.
People Play h3 all the Time, even to give move odds
> @Grumpymantooth - IMHO you're absolutely right, I don't understand the criticism of the way they play one bit. Neither of us could have dealt with the supposedly blunders of the two in the way they did themselves. When you're playing against an equally strong opponent (and at the very best level, they're all roughly equal), throwing him off by playing unexpected moves is the right way to go - which is what both were trying to do . And creating imbalance by not making the best, i.e. expected, moves, but the unexpected ones, is an absolutely legitimate strategy in chess - and that's exactly where Ding was (slightly) better than Nepo - this time...
Also no top Player who is not residing in Arthurs basement really thinks he can suprise a gm with h3.
People Play h3 all the Time, even to give move odds
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