Where da police at?
Can someone explain to me why this guy isn't under investigation by police or in jail? 15 y old that's pedophile I think.
Wow I did not know this happened thanks lichess.
The fact that lichess is choosing to delete big tourmates that get hosted possibly losing some donations is an exciting choice. Time will tell if lichess makes some profit from this choice. It might be a way to keep users on the site or make people want to donate however it could most likely also be to stop to make it look like lichess promotes this which would not be a great choice.
@OnlyDivo said in #206:
> Can someone explain to me why this guy isn't under investigation by police or in jail? 15 y old that's pedophile I think.
google something llke
why women don't report sexual assault
there's 78 million results.
I asked chatgpt
adding to chatgpt, the perpetrators were highly regarded, had high status, had lots of fans and admirers. the victims might have thought they wouldn't be believed and would be attacked by the perpetrator's fans on forums saying things like - where's the evidence, innocent until proven guilty, what were you wearing? you're just looking for attention, etc.
chatgpt says
There are numerous reasons why some women may choose not to report sexual assault. It's important to understand that every individual's experience is unique, and these reasons can vary based on personal, cultural, and societal factors. Some common factors that may contribute to women not reporting sexual assault include:
1. **Fear of Retaliation:** Victims may fear retaliation, further harm, or violence from the perpetrator or others if they report the assault. This fear can be well-founded, especially if the perpetrator is known to the victim.
2. **Shame and Stigma:** Victims often feel shame, guilt, or self-blame following a sexual assault. Societal stigma surrounding sexual assault can lead victims to believe that they will be judged or blamed for what happened to them.
3. **Privacy and Confidentiality Concerns:** Reporting a sexual assault can result in personal information becoming public, which some victims may wish to avoid in order to protect their privacy.
4. **Distrust of the Legal System:** Some victims may lack confidence in the legal system's ability to provide them with justice. They may fear being re-victimized during the legal process, facing skepticism or disbelief, or not receiving the support they need.
5. **Cultural and Religious Factors:** Cultural norms and religious beliefs can influence a victim's decision to report sexual assault. In some cultures, discussing or reporting such incidents may be considered taboo or may bring shame to the family.
6. **Lack of Awareness or Education:** Some individuals may not be fully aware of their rights, available resources, or the reporting process itself. This lack of information can deter victims from coming forward.
7. **Trauma and Emotional Impact:** Experiencing sexual assault can lead to trauma and emotional distress. Victims may be overwhelmed by their emotions and may struggle to navigate the reporting process while dealing with their psychological well-being.
8. **Relationship with the Perpetrator:** If the perpetrator is known to the victim, such as a friend, partner, or family member, it can complicate the decision to report. Victims may fear the impact on their relationships or may be manipulated into silence.
9. **Negative Past Experiences:** Some individuals may have heard about or experienced negative outcomes from reporting sexual assault, which can discourage them from coming forward.
10. **Systemic and Institutional Barriers:** Structural issues within institutions, such as lack of resources, insensitive treatment, or biased attitudes, can discourage victims from reporting or seeking help.
It's important to emphasize that these reasons are not the fault of the victims; rather, they highlight the complexities of addressing sexual assault in society. Supporting survivors, promoting awareness, and creating safe spaces can help empower individuals to come forward and seek justice if they choose to do so.
> Can someone explain to me why this guy isn't under investigation by police or in jail? 15 y old that's pedophile I think.
google something llke
why women don't report sexual assault
there's 78 million results.
I asked chatgpt
adding to chatgpt, the perpetrators were highly regarded, had high status, had lots of fans and admirers. the victims might have thought they wouldn't be believed and would be attacked by the perpetrator's fans on forums saying things like - where's the evidence, innocent until proven guilty, what were you wearing? you're just looking for attention, etc.
chatgpt says
There are numerous reasons why some women may choose not to report sexual assault. It's important to understand that every individual's experience is unique, and these reasons can vary based on personal, cultural, and societal factors. Some common factors that may contribute to women not reporting sexual assault include:
1. **Fear of Retaliation:** Victims may fear retaliation, further harm, or violence from the perpetrator or others if they report the assault. This fear can be well-founded, especially if the perpetrator is known to the victim.
2. **Shame and Stigma:** Victims often feel shame, guilt, or self-blame following a sexual assault. Societal stigma surrounding sexual assault can lead victims to believe that they will be judged or blamed for what happened to them.
3. **Privacy and Confidentiality Concerns:** Reporting a sexual assault can result in personal information becoming public, which some victims may wish to avoid in order to protect their privacy.
4. **Distrust of the Legal System:** Some victims may lack confidence in the legal system's ability to provide them with justice. They may fear being re-victimized during the legal process, facing skepticism or disbelief, or not receiving the support they need.
5. **Cultural and Religious Factors:** Cultural norms and religious beliefs can influence a victim's decision to report sexual assault. In some cultures, discussing or reporting such incidents may be considered taboo or may bring shame to the family.
6. **Lack of Awareness or Education:** Some individuals may not be fully aware of their rights, available resources, or the reporting process itself. This lack of information can deter victims from coming forward.
7. **Trauma and Emotional Impact:** Experiencing sexual assault can lead to trauma and emotional distress. Victims may be overwhelmed by their emotions and may struggle to navigate the reporting process while dealing with their psychological well-being.
8. **Relationship with the Perpetrator:** If the perpetrator is known to the victim, such as a friend, partner, or family member, it can complicate the decision to report. Victims may fear the impact on their relationships or may be manipulated into silence.
9. **Negative Past Experiences:** Some individuals may have heard about or experienced negative outcomes from reporting sexual assault, which can discourage them from coming forward.
10. **Systemic and Institutional Barriers:** Structural issues within institutions, such as lack of resources, insensitive treatment, or biased attitudes, can discourage victims from reporting or seeking help.
It's important to emphasize that these reasons are not the fault of the victims; rather, they highlight the complexities of addressing sexual assault in society. Supporting survivors, promoting awareness, and creating safe spaces can help empower individuals to come forward and seek justice if they choose to do so.
This is absurd - punish who needs to be punished but to close off a large section of the Chess community at large which had nothing to do with this is ridiculous!
This decision of Lichess is entirely short-sighted and cutting their nose despite their face for a temporary thrill of righteous indignation. Not to say it goes unjustified but this decision was not thought out well with good enough consideration or level-headed leadership.
This doesn't build or support the chess community at large it damages and reduces it. As I said disavow the people responsible but don't take it out on the whole.
This decision of Lichess is entirely short-sighted and cutting their nose despite their face for a temporary thrill of righteous indignation. Not to say it goes unjustified but this decision was not thought out well with good enough consideration or level-headed leadership.
This doesn't build or support the chess community at large it damages and reduces it. As I said disavow the people responsible but don't take it out on the whole.
@h2b2 said in #209:
> google something llke
>
> why women don't report sexual assault
>
> there's 78 million results.
>
> I asked chatgpt
You really managed to string 4 NPC statements one after the other and made it look easy lol
> google something llke
>
> why women don't report sexual assault
>
> there's 78 million results.
>
> I asked chatgpt
You really managed to string 4 NPC statements one after the other and made it look easy lol
@QueenRosieMary
kek, honestly i dont know whether you are trolling or not but I'll assume the latter. First and foremost - I indeed participated in investigation. Of course I dont exactly know how it works in US, cause I dont live there. If a word of a random woman is enough for your legal system to inprison someone then you are right (and I wouldnt be that surprised).
> If you think that women just make up these allegations to get attention, you are part of the problem...
Obviously, not all women make up allegations, as not all men attack someone, so it is up to court to decide, that's my point. She didn't go to police not afterwards, nor now, so it looks suspiciously simillar to metoo and other simillar campaigns. Attentionwhoring, if you will.
>Also, I think it is very telling about the sort of person you are that you thought it was funny when I mentioned in #154 that I was recently a recipient of sexually explicit and inappropriate messages here on Lichess.
Yep, I find funny when people on forums tell some coolstories to prove their points. Especially it becomes a comedy when someone gets offended by random shitpost on a random website, so that was also partially a reason for such an ironic message from me.
kek, honestly i dont know whether you are trolling or not but I'll assume the latter. First and foremost - I indeed participated in investigation. Of course I dont exactly know how it works in US, cause I dont live there. If a word of a random woman is enough for your legal system to inprison someone then you are right (and I wouldnt be that surprised).
> If you think that women just make up these allegations to get attention, you are part of the problem...
Obviously, not all women make up allegations, as not all men attack someone, so it is up to court to decide, that's my point. She didn't go to police not afterwards, nor now, so it looks suspiciously simillar to metoo and other simillar campaigns. Attentionwhoring, if you will.
>Also, I think it is very telling about the sort of person you are that you thought it was funny when I mentioned in #154 that I was recently a recipient of sexually explicit and inappropriate messages here on Lichess.
Yep, I find funny when people on forums tell some coolstories to prove their points. Especially it becomes a comedy when someone gets offended by random shitpost on a random website, so that was also partially a reason for such an ironic message from me.
@JoJoBonnette
> This decision of Lichess is entirely short-sighted
It is quite the opposite. In fact, this way they will promote themself as the comunity that fights for what is right and blah-blah-blah. I would buy their stocks right now if it was possible.
> This decision of Lichess is entirely short-sighted
It is quite the opposite. In fact, this way they will promote themself as the comunity that fights for what is right and blah-blah-blah. I would buy their stocks right now if it was possible.
It feels great to see Lichess take up the initiative into this. Most orgs don't care about women's rights, but it's just amazing how Lichess says a direct "NO" to all such orgs. A great perspective!
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