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@WildTiger said in #10:
> You wrote "Happy New Year, Ukraine! The last New Year in your short pathetic history." at another thread.
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> Do you think it is humanly ok to behave like this?
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> People in Ukraine are suffering, many of them without electricity, heat, fresh water or means to talk to their loved ones.
> Ukraine loses around 100 soldiers every single day.
> These people are someone's sons, daughters, brothers, sisters, husbands, wives...
>
> Don't you feel ashamed of yourself?

Some day they will be.

>U.S. officials have said that Russia has lost between 60,000 and 80,000 troops in its misguided war on Ukraine. A soldier watches Ukrainian artillerymen fire an M109 tracked self-propelled howitzer at Grafenwoehr Training Area, Germany, May 12, 2022.

Never forget that Russian losses tend to be about 2-3 times higher, numerically.

This is because of poor equipment, shoddy leadership, and for the fact they are fighting a rather insane war of aggression. Funnily enough I left your name out of the post, " @MsBlackBear ". Although yes your stance is well known.

>The mass exodus comes at a time when Russian troops are already deeply demoralized and facing heavy losses on the battlefront in Ukraine. These losses have caused Russia’s advancements in Ukraine to come to a grinding halt, thus the Russian Minister of Defense has called upon 300,000 men to join the Russian Armed Forces. [1]

>The mobilization has wreaked havoc amongst many Russians. Large numbers of fighting aged men are now seeking to exit Russia swiftly to avoid being sent to the Ukrainian frontline. Neighboring states such as Kazakhstan, Georgia, Finland, and Armenia have seen a drastic increase in Russian citizens attempting to cross the border. Following the mobilization order from the Kremlin, nearly 200,000 Russians have exited Russia. Georgia’s interior minister announced that nearly 53,000 Russians have crossed the Russo-Georgian border since September 21st, 2022.[2] Additionally, the government of Kazakhstan has reported nearly 98,000 Russians have crossed the border since the announcement of the mobilization.[3]

>The influx of Russian citizens has prompted various responses from neighboring governments. The President of Kazakhstan, Kassym‐Jomart Tokayev, said in a statement regarding the exodus of Russians that they, “are forced to leave because of the current hopeless situation. We must take care of them and ensure their safety.”[4] Kazakh law stipulates that Russian passport holders can remain in Kazakhstan visa-free for a period of 30 days, and any longer stays must be registered. However, other countries have been less welcoming of this new rush of Russian passport holders. The government of Finland recently passed a resolution severely limiting the arrival of Russian passport holders arriving with Schengen tourist visas with limited exceptions.[5] Many Baltic nations have also imposed strict regulations regarding the admittance of Russian passport holders into their countries.[6] The Latvian foreign minister said humanitarian or other visa types would not be issued to Russian citizens seeking to avoid the recently announced military mobilization. [7]

warsawinstitute.org/mass-russian-exodus-following-partial-military-mobilization/

@pretzelattack1 continues to beat-around-the-bush when mentioned, and when he sees a possible snipe or chance for Pro-Putin posts, he will do so gradually and continually.
@MsBlackBear I guess you think Russia should continue to invade?

You seem to be saying that it's correct to do so, because of an imagined "threat-of-invasion"
Could you clarify, and let us know if you think this is a correct thing to do, this horrific invasion?
You have posted in the past it was necessary because of a threat.
But this is just a weirdly insane view of Putin. . . . Thinking that everyone is about to attack him.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtyA3VJQn1g

Among other questions I remember this one being asked; --- As Russia is so big, how much will it affect the country to have a few more territories added?

Pretty spot on.
I am not 100% pro Putin, any more than I was 100% pro Saddam Hussein when the US invaded Iraq based on lies, but just as the people who supported those lies equated opposition to the war with support for Hussein back the, they now pretend that opposition to this latest proxy war is equivalent to support for Putin, who they also like to pretend is an out of control dictator who wants to reconstitute the USSR. I think we are closer to nuclear war now than we have been since the Cuban missile crisis, and it is insane.
I'm not beating around any bush, I think this proxy war is going extremely badly for Ukraine, and the question in my mind is what NATO and the US are going to do when this latest proxy war fails. The EU is slowly self destructing due to sanctions on Russian Gas while the US profits by selling LQNG at higher prices than the EU was paying before the US and some NATO country blew up the pipeline. The US is creating alliances between Russia and China, Turkey, India against itself, and this terrible for anybody in this country that isn't making a lot of money on defense stocks.
@AverageCowEnjoyer said in #32:
> @pretzelattack1 continues to beat-around-the-bush when mentioned, and when he sees a possible snipe or chance for Pro-Putin posts, he will do so gradually and continually.

He also wrote something bad about cows recently.
@pretzelattack1 said in #35:
> I'm not beating around any bush, I think this proxy war is going extremely badly for Ukraine, and the question in my mind is what NATO and the US are going to do when this latest proxy war fails. The EU is slowly self destructing due to sanctions on Russian Gas while the US profits by selling LQNG at higher prices than the EU was paying before the US and some NATO country blew up the pipeline. The US is creating alliances between Russia and China, Turkey, India against itself, and this terrible for anybody in this country that isn't making a lot of money on defense stocks.

To hatefully call this insane invasion a "Proxy-war" is again, an insult against all good things in the universe. You have a maniacal sociopath who has literally destroyed the lives of 80,000 Russians. Putin is no more a good thing for Russia than Saddam Hussein was, gasing his own troops. Can you imagine this?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_massacre

A million or so Russians have left the country.

1.9 Million Ukrainians were kidnapped from Ukraine.

>The Halabja massacre (Kurdish: Kêmyabarana Helebce کیمیابارانی ھەڵەبجە), also known as the Halabja chemical attack, was a massacre of Kurdish people that took place on 16 March 1988, during the closing days of the Iran–Iraq War in Halabja, Iraq. The attack was part of the Al-Anfal Campaign in Kurdistan, as well as part of the Iraqi Army's attempt to repel the Iranian Operation Zafar 7. It took place 48 hours after the capture of the town by the Iranian Army. A United Nations (UN) medical investigation concluded that mustard gas was used in the attack, along with unidentified nerve agents.[1]

>The incident was the largest chemical weapons attack directed against a civilian-populated area in history,[2] killing between 3,200 and 5,000 people and injuring 7,000 to 10,000 more, most of them civilians.[3][4] Preliminary results from surveys of the affected region showed an increased rate of cancer and birth defects in the years afterward.[5]

>The Halabja attack has been officially defined by the Supreme Iraqi Criminal Tribunal as a genocidal massacre against the Kurdish people in Iraq under Saddam Hussein.[6] The attack was also condemned as a crime against humanity by the Parliament of Canada.[7] Ali Hassan al-Majid, a high-ranking Iraqi official who led the Anfal campaign, was found guilty of ordering the attack and subsequently executed in 2010.[8]

But you are literally trying to deflect the issue.

The insanity of thinking that people who devote their lives to peace are against one war, but for another, is yet another fault.

In any case, Putin is a big loser, and will always be.

>When Vladimir Putin sent up to 200,000 soldiers into Ukraine on 24 February, he thought he could sweep into the capital Kyiv in a matter of days and depose the government.

>Russian forces quickly captured big stretches of territory but failed to encircle Kyiv.

>Yet in the coming months they were forced into a series of humiliating retreats, first in the north and now in the south. To date, they have lost more than half the territory seized at the start of the invasion.

www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56720589

>The Bucha massacre (Ukrainian: Бучанська різанина, romanized: Buchanska rizanyna) was the mass murder of Ukrainian civilians and prisoners of war by Russian Armed Forces during the fight for and occupation of the Ukrainian city of Bucha amid the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

And if the Russian Army is not stopped in Ukraine -- where do you think they will go next?

Peacefully home, never to invade another country? Nay. This is why they must be stopped -- besides the Buccha massacre, invasion and war crimes, and senseless and other atrocities.

www.you---tube.com/watch?v=l-R3oigl9vY (Soldier held prisoner for 17 days in Russian jail)

Fortunately for us -- you, me, Ukraine, and every other human being alive -- Putin is losing and will continue to lose.

www.you---tube.com/watch?v=YGk1uYX3ZaQ

As seen by yet another failed commander withdrawn from the battlefield.

Heck in the first 3 weeks, 10 commanders were indeed killed.
to inaccurately pretend it is not a proxy war is to ignore both the extensive history of us proxy wars since it became the world power after world war 2 and to ignore the specific history of Ukraine and the surrounding region. to pretend Russia (not Putin, you make the classic mistake of pretending Putin is the next Hitler, not simply another of a series of leaders that the US has demonized because it wants to effect a regime change) is not justified in reacting against US attempts to encircle it is to fall for the same script we saw enacted against Hussein, being against Assad, against legitimate government all over the globe.

The only reason the Russian army is in Ukraine is that the US has been engaged in a decades long attempt to provoke Russia into a war, ever since the USSR dissolved and Putin subsequently started ending US influence in Russia itself after the death of Yeltsin.
The Bucha massacre was likely perpetrated by the Ukrainians themselves, against locals either sympathetic to Moscow or who had even just accepted Russian aid--much like the earlier lies about Saddam's wmd's, and the US lies about Iraqi soldiers throwing babies on a hospital floor. It took years to expose those lies, and some people still believe them.

At this point, I don't know where the Russia army will stop, NATO has thrown everything but the kitchen sink at Russia, and the main european NATO government have proved they are not capable of honoring agreements--see Merkel's recent admissions that Germany and France never intended to implement the Minsk Accords, that it was just a ruse to buy Ukraine time to arm so it could attack Donbas.

there are many quotes by US officials in effect admitting this is a proxy war. and a war that Ukraine is losing. the Logistics favor Russia massively, it is an existential struggle for them, and the US has badly miscalculated the consequences of using Ukrainian blood to effect its foreign policy goal of dismembering Russia, and then moving on to China. any patriotic American should oppose this.

www.moonofalabama.org/2023/01/ukraine-and-russia-agree-russia-is-fighting-nato.html#more
lol you downvoted a Gary Larson cartoon about cows?? did you think that was policital?
@pretzelattack1 said in #39:

> The only reason the Russian army is in Ukraine is that the US has been engaged in a decades long attempt to provoke Russia into a war, ever since the USSR dissolved and Putin subsequently started ending US influence in Russia itself after the death of Yeltsin.

This is unimaginably insane.

This is the equivalent of shooting person B, and saying person C "Made you do it," while about 200 other persons are continually saying "Put down the weapon. Do not shoot."

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