This rule seems very unfair....

@SD_2709 said in #5:
> Because I was with my friend when he was playing and I literally saw the opponent's clock run out and it saying 'Draw offer accepted.' The opponent was also offline when the game ended so no way he accepted it. The clock did run out and it was still draw.
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> It would be nice to be able to at least withdraw the offer. So if someone is stalling, you can just withdraw. If someone is stalling, they deserve the loss. This way if you offer a draw they can waste your time and let their clock run out and still get a draw without really having to accept the draw. The only way to draw by mutual agreement should be if the opponent accepts it, not timeout or anything else.

Can you imagine if at an OTB tournament, a player offers a draw and the opponent spends a half hour considering it, only for the player to withdraw the offer? It's probably happened but it shouldn't be allowed.

@Cedur216 said in #10:
> OTB you can't back out of a draw offer either.
No but otb your opponent usually doesn't let the clock run out. Nobody wants to waste 90 minutes of their own time.

@Toadofsky the problem is when the time runs out if the offer is still active the game ends in draw. It should only end in draw when the opponent accepts it. If I offer a draw and my opponent gets flagged, why should it be a draw? They should lose because they never accepted the draw, they only got flagged.

No need for a withdraw option, I am suggesting to make it so that if I offer draw and the opponent runs out of time before moving, they lose. As long as they don't click the accept (tick mark) button, it shouldn't be draw by 'Mutual Agreement'.

A deviance from FIDE rules, but apparently accepted as policy by lichess.
lichess.org/forum/lichess-feedback/draw-auto-accepted#1

@chesslaos said in #13:
> A deviance from FIDE rules, but apparently accepted as policy by lichess.
> lichess.org/forum/lichess-feedback/draw-auto-accepted#1
But this rule just seems outright unfair. What's the point? If I run out of time, I lose. It shouldn't be draw.

I agree with you, and the FIDE rules agree with you.
It's not clear to me why lichess doesn't wish to change/fix this, but it is possible to enjoy online chess regardless.

Devil's advocate: if they change it many players will complain saying they should not lose just because they have no time to physically accept a draw offer in the split second before flag fall.

You applied for a draw, you got a draw. You had given up your ambition to win in that position. What's there to complain?

Your opponent was behaving rude, of course. But I don't see how you hoped to mitigate his rudeness by that draw offer.

never knew this was a rule but since the original post has 16 upvotes and 1 downvote at the time of writing this i presume most people agree along with me that there should at least be an option to withdraw the draw offer if it will get automatically accepted when the clock runs out, also since this is online chess then unlike otb it's possible to missclick the draw button and it seems unreasonable to not be able to undo that

> it's possible to missclick the draw button

That's why the setting "confirm resignation and draw offers" exists.
Next thing you'll ask for is withdrawing resignation xD