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So one thing is that it's possible to have a lot of general ideas about different openings without actually learning theory or being able to play them all yourself. Like, I don't play d4 and I don't play the King's Indian against d4, but I have a basic idea of how the plans for each side in the King's Indian are likely to play out because I've tried to understand master games in the King's Indian and understanding the games and understanding the key ideas of the openings go hand in hand. Also understanding stuff like that (again, without necessarily actually learning concrete lines) is just kind of fun for a lot of people.
I guess it's also nice to be able to adapt your play to what you feel like on any given day as well - are you in a Giuoco Piano mood or a King's Gambit mood? At some level it becomes practically useful, too - like, if you and your opponent are going to be doing specific prep for each other, or if you need to take a safer or riskier option based on a tournament situation or something - although for just hammering out games online that's less of an issue.
I honestly don't know about the practical learning value of being exposed to different sorts of position by playing lots of different openings. I've heard arguments either way from strong players and experienced coaches.
I guess it's also nice to be able to adapt your play to what you feel like on any given day as well - are you in a Giuoco Piano mood or a King's Gambit mood? At some level it becomes practically useful, too - like, if you and your opponent are going to be doing specific prep for each other, or if you need to take a safer or riskier option based on a tournament situation or something - although for just hammering out games online that's less of an issue.
I honestly don't know about the practical learning value of being exposed to different sorts of position by playing lots of different openings. I've heard arguments either way from strong players and experienced coaches.
THE KEY WORDS were ... NOW that I want to get better . Yes by all means studying many different openings middlegames & endings by studying complete games say in an Chess Informant @absicht_MAUERzuBAUEN going thru game number 1 then 11 then 22 then 33 all the way through then game number 6 , 16 , 26, 36 etc all the way through 9about 600+games are there but studying 120 like this is more practical & u are EXPOSED to EVERYTHING
@absicht_MAUERzuBAUEN said in #1:
> I often see people knowing a lot of openings and knowing their theory and stuff like that.
> is it really useful?
> I mean all I know is exactly one opening for white and some responses to black (mostly g6, as it does not require a lot of theory).
>
> How often do you actually use all your opening knowledge?
>
> The reason why I do not exactly know most of the opening part was because I had no time to learn these. I just sticked with e4 for white and mostly d5 as black.
>
> But now that I am trying to be good, I realized there are a lot of variations in e4 games, many of whom I never learnt.
> I think learning the theory of an opening is a lot of work and time. Thus, I want to ask how necessary it is to learn a lot of openings. I can think of a couple of benefits such as knowing what plans may work for a certain situation I have, but did you experience a lot of change through learning an opening?
What happens if your opponent plays something that you dont know? its alot of work and time but useful in the long run.
> I often see people knowing a lot of openings and knowing their theory and stuff like that.
> is it really useful?
> I mean all I know is exactly one opening for white and some responses to black (mostly g6, as it does not require a lot of theory).
>
> How often do you actually use all your opening knowledge?
>
> The reason why I do not exactly know most of the opening part was because I had no time to learn these. I just sticked with e4 for white and mostly d5 as black.
>
> But now that I am trying to be good, I realized there are a lot of variations in e4 games, many of whom I never learnt.
> I think learning the theory of an opening is a lot of work and time. Thus, I want to ask how necessary it is to learn a lot of openings. I can think of a couple of benefits such as knowing what plans may work for a certain situation I have, but did you experience a lot of change through learning an opening?
What happens if your opponent plays something that you dont know? its alot of work and time but useful in the long run.
In my case i only know italian oppening and some similar italians and i know just the name of other oppening but not more than 2 or 3 moves.
and i think i have a good ranking.
and i think i have a good ranking.
the answer is obvious
It makes sense to adjust your opening play for different time controls. Up to 10+0 piece activity is everything, whereas in classical you might want more solid pawn structures for better endgame prospects.
You dont need a complete opening. Few moves should suffice at lower levels, so you get a proper piece structure. Say like 7 moves or so. The rest, chess principles should be good enough, if you have decent principles.
Yes, you do need several openings. e4 e5 leads to several variations
e4-d5 leads to scandi. e4 e6, french. e4 c5, sicilian. e4 g6. And so on.
I play opening theory in 90% of my games, if not more. I only play e4, though i face a lot more openings, so i more or less know how they are played. But i dont go too deep, even in my main, only a few moves and im out of the book already. I mean, its possible that i do in fact follow theory deeper, but not aware about it. Just a few moves to set up the pawn chain, and a couple of pieces to castle asap and the rest is chaos from there. Probably the deepest i have gone is like is like 10-12 moves, but in a single line in the sicilian, as is the only line i play against most variations.
But more often than not, between 5-7 moves.
Yes, you do need several openings. e4 e5 leads to several variations
e4-d5 leads to scandi. e4 e6, french. e4 c5, sicilian. e4 g6. And so on.
I play opening theory in 90% of my games, if not more. I only play e4, though i face a lot more openings, so i more or less know how they are played. But i dont go too deep, even in my main, only a few moves and im out of the book already. I mean, its possible that i do in fact follow theory deeper, but not aware about it. Just a few moves to set up the pawn chain, and a couple of pieces to castle asap and the rest is chaos from there. Probably the deepest i have gone is like is like 10-12 moves, but in a single line in the sicilian, as is the only line i play against most variations.
But more often than not, between 5-7 moves.
Don’t fear the man who practices 1000 different punches 1000 times, fear the man who practices 1 punch 1000 times.
You don’t need to know or have several different openings in your repertoire. The principle is to master 1 or 2 openings , and utilize different variations of those 1 or 2 openings. With black, the focus should be on one opening, because black is automatically at a disadvantage when the game begins, so the concentration should be on simply surviving the opening.
I play the King’s Indian Attack when I play as white, using different variations of that opening, and I play
the Pirc defense, King’s Indian and Pirc Czech defense as black .They are all the same openings, just different variations. I can use that opening or system against any other system or opening that is being played by my opponent.
The focus should be on 3 principles when it comes to the opening.
1. Developing your pieces
2. Controlling the middle
3. And making sure your king is safe.
Once those principles have been attained, then one’s strategy can shift towards the middle game.
You don’t need to know or have several different openings in your repertoire. The principle is to master 1 or 2 openings , and utilize different variations of those 1 or 2 openings. With black, the focus should be on one opening, because black is automatically at a disadvantage when the game begins, so the concentration should be on simply surviving the opening.
I play the King’s Indian Attack when I play as white, using different variations of that opening, and I play
the Pirc defense, King’s Indian and Pirc Czech defense as black .They are all the same openings, just different variations. I can use that opening or system against any other system or opening that is being played by my opponent.
The focus should be on 3 principles when it comes to the opening.
1. Developing your pieces
2. Controlling the middle
3. And making sure your king is safe.
Once those principles have been attained, then one’s strategy can shift towards the middle game.
@absicht_MAUERzuBAUEN said in #1:
> I often see people knowing a lot of openings and knowing their theory and stuff like that.
> is it really useful?
> I mean all I know is exactly one opening for white and some responses to black (mostly g6, as it does not require a lot of theory).
>
> How often do you actually use all your opening knowledge?
>
> The reason why I do not exactly know most of the opening part was because I had no time to learn these. I just sticked with e4 for white and mostly d5 as black.
>
> But now that I am trying to be good, I realized there are a lot of variations in e4 games, many of whom I never learnt.
> I think learning the theory of an opening is a lot of work and time. Thus, I want to ask how necessary it is to learn a lot of openings. I can think of a couple of benefits such as knowing what plans may work for a certain situation I have, but did you experience a lot of change through learning an opening?
i know like 100 or 90 openings (but i forget the name) and it doesnt take a lot of time (it actually takes about 20 or 10 minutes to study a opening).
and as a 1600 i just like to play queens pawn opening.
if u wanna study like 50 openings in a day, trust me u can do it (im not really sure u can do it).
when i started playing chess, i just knew one opening and it was the king's gambit but now im playing so much openings that i don't even rember the variants, and i just play good moves if i forget the variations.
i know so many openings, but im still a 1600.
its not that hard to learn 10 or 15 openings in a day or two.
just make sure u learn a lot of openings as a kid, so when ur a adult, u can learn even the double or triple of how many openings u learnt as a kid (im a kid).
just try to understand this comment a little cuz im not really that smart :D.
im still learning chess, so im sure this comment will help u.
> I often see people knowing a lot of openings and knowing their theory and stuff like that.
> is it really useful?
> I mean all I know is exactly one opening for white and some responses to black (mostly g6, as it does not require a lot of theory).
>
> How often do you actually use all your opening knowledge?
>
> The reason why I do not exactly know most of the opening part was because I had no time to learn these. I just sticked with e4 for white and mostly d5 as black.
>
> But now that I am trying to be good, I realized there are a lot of variations in e4 games, many of whom I never learnt.
> I think learning the theory of an opening is a lot of work and time. Thus, I want to ask how necessary it is to learn a lot of openings. I can think of a couple of benefits such as knowing what plans may work for a certain situation I have, but did you experience a lot of change through learning an opening?
i know like 100 or 90 openings (but i forget the name) and it doesnt take a lot of time (it actually takes about 20 or 10 minutes to study a opening).
and as a 1600 i just like to play queens pawn opening.
if u wanna study like 50 openings in a day, trust me u can do it (im not really sure u can do it).
when i started playing chess, i just knew one opening and it was the king's gambit but now im playing so much openings that i don't even rember the variants, and i just play good moves if i forget the variations.
i know so many openings, but im still a 1600.
its not that hard to learn 10 or 15 openings in a day or two.
just make sure u learn a lot of openings as a kid, so when ur a adult, u can learn even the double or triple of how many openings u learnt as a kid (im a kid).
just try to understand this comment a little cuz im not really that smart :D.
im still learning chess, so im sure this comment will help u.
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