Gaza

@OctoPinky

also interesting example, because around 200 Americans are kidnapped and killed in Mexico every year .. and there is a major crisis there, and it's not safe. There is an underground war going on there, you don't see it in the news every day.

@salmon_rushdie said in #10:
> Nobody said they didn't have the right to self-defense, but killing & abducting civilians isn't self-defense - targeting the IDF would be.

Except that all the "international community" equally condemns every action of resistance (no matter if carried against cilivians or military), denies Palestinian right of having a military force or security and, generally speaking, place as a pre-condition to recognize a Palestinian election result or government the safety of Israel. Never the other way around.

Really is anybody supporting Palestinians to target the IDF when South Africa filing an application at the International Court of Justice has triggered the freeze of humanitarian aid?

@salmon_rushdie said in #10:
> Tit-for-tat shit isn't going to solve this crisis,

100% agreed

@salmon_rushdie said in #10:
> Diplomacy will,

No, it will not. The closer we've been to solve it was in the 1990s, but you know how it ended. There is no reason to think it will work if tried again.

@salmon_rushdie said in #10:
> "Hamas and the allied Islamic Jihad have rejected an Egyptian proposal that they relinquish power in the Gaza Strip in return for a permanent ceasefire"
> www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-islamic-jihad-reject-giving-up-power-return-permanent-ceasefire-egyptian-2023-12-25/

That is just incoherent, I mean the writing, not you. Probably it is not true, and it has been denied by Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

"If you need protests all around the world to tell the world that killing children is not fine, you know humanity has lost".

The Zionists when claiming they had their land, killed thousands of Palestinians through 76 years. This entire time and the Zionists got away with it unpunished. This genocide should stop.

Some very interesting comments some are Ducky Dung. Its not my intention to say which.
But if Hamas came out of there tunnels and threw their weapons down. Every thing would stop oh and released all the Hostages Peace would came.

@justme23 said in #14:
> if Hamas came out of there tunnels and threw their weapons down. Every thing would stop oh and released all the Hostages Peace would came

I'm old enough to remember the days before Hamas, before tunnels and before hostages, the Palestinian Authority (PLO, then Fatah) even recognizing Israel and renouncing violence.

Peace didn't come.

@justme23 said in #14:
> But if Hamas came out of there tunnels and threw their weapons down. Every thing would stop oh and released all the Hostages Peace would came.
Peace wasn't there in 1948. Hamas wasn't there either. Only Zionists and Palestinians were in Palestine.

If someone punches you in the face, you will not be a sage and forgive him.
Hamas attacked Israel and now are using civilians as shield.If they were so called brave men then they should have fought directly with IDF. If one wants to argue that Israel has America, doesn't Hamas have almost the whole Islamic world on their side?

Let’s be honest— peace hasn’t been there since the dawn of civilization.

Maybe all the countries should join hands and arms and blow that region of the world off the map with our nuclear devices. That would certainly stop these conflicts.

Or we could try for something nonviolent and productive, but that wouldn’t be as newsworthy.

@Chess-Phantom15 said in #17:
> Hamas attacked Israel and now are using civilians as shield.
This argument is ignorant, and assumes Hamas attacked first.
Who attacked first Palestine? Hamas or Zionist colonisers?
What's earlier? 7 October 2023 or 1948?

@clousems said in #18:
> Maybe all the countries should join hands and arms and blow that region of the world off the map with our nuclear devices. That would certainly stop these conflicts.
>
> Or we could try for something nonviolent and productive, but that wouldn’t be as newsworthy.
So you want to bomb everyone, Jews and Palestinians, innocents and criminals, everyone, the region off the map, with nuclear devices?
This will only worsen the situation. People will blame the one with nuclear weapons about that.